Mental State Examination & Suicide Risk Assessment

Our favourite psychiatrist Dr James Ellison came down to the booth again to go through Mental State Examination and how we can assess a patient's suicide risk.

First up we go through how we can examine a patient's mental state.  The MSE is part of the Psychiatric assessment performed alongside taking a full history.  We at the different composite parts:

  • Appearance

  • Behaviour

  • Speech

  • Mood

  • Thoughts

  • Perceptions

  • Cognition

  • Insight

Here is the Take Visually for Mental State Examination:

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We then look at assessing a patient's suicide risk.  First there are the individual patient and then situational factors going through the more risky features in the history.  

James mentioned the Tool for Assessing Suicide Risk (TASR) which can be found here

And here's the Take Visually for Suicide Risk Assessment:

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Mental Health Act & Capacity

A key part of Psychiatry is an understanding the legal basis for treating a patient who is too unwell to make a decision regarding their treatment.  Dr James Ellison, who took us through a General Introduction to Psychiatry, once again joined the pod to take us through the Mental Health Act and Mental Capacity Act.

Section 2: Detained in hospital for assessment (if patient hasn't been assessed before or not for a long time); up to 28 days; cannot be extended; can be moved from Section 2 to Section 3

Section 3: Detained in hospital for treatment; up to 6 months; can be extended 

Section 4: For emergencies (if only one doctor available at short notice) up to 72 hours giving time for a full assessment

Section 5: Emergency holding powers

Used if a patient is on a ward voluntarily and too unwell to leave but wants to leave.  Section 5 has to be used otherwise it is against the law.

  • Section 5 (2): Doctor's holding power; up to 72 hours; cannot be extended; needs assessment  and changed to Section 2, 3 or continue as voluntary
  • Section 5 (4): Nurse's holding power; up to 6 hours; cannot be extended; needs assessment as soon as possible and changed to Section 5 (2), 2, 3 or continue as voluntary

We also discussed the Mental Capacity Act (MCA) 2005 to be used whenever discussing treatment options with a patient.

The MCA assumes a number of things; as a health worker with a patient we must:

  • assume a person has the capacity to make a decision themselves, unless it's proved otherwise
  • wherever possible, help people to make their own decisions (do our best to overcome any communication barrier) 
  • don't treat a person as lacking the capacity to make a decision just because they make an unwise decision (it's difficult but people are allowed to make bad choices with regard to their health) 
  • if you make a decision for someone who doesn't have capacity, it must be in their best interests
  • treatment and care provided to someone who lacks capacity should be the least restrictive of their basic rights and freedoms

Here is the Take Visually for this episode:

How is mental capacity assessed?

The MCA sets out a 2-stage test of capacity:

1) Does the person have an impairment of their mind or brain, whether as a result of an illness, or external factors such as alcohol or drug use?

2) Does the impairment mean the person is unable to make a specific decision when they need to? People can lack capacity to make some decisions, but have capacity to make others. Mental capacity can also fluctuate with time – someone may lack capacity at one point in time, but may be able to make the same decision at a later point in time.

Where appropriate, people should be allowed the time to make a decision themselves.

The MCA says a person is unable to make a decision if they can't:

  • understand the information relevant to the decision
  • retain that information
  • use or weigh up that information as part of the process of making the decision

James recommended the website MentalHealthLaw.co.uk for more information.  

General Introduction to Psychiatry

Psychiatry and Mental Health issues are important considerations in Emergency Medicine and part of the Clinical Phase 2 curriculum at the University of Nottingham.  Therefore we were delighted when Dr James Ellison, Consultant Psychiatrist with a special interest in Substance Misuse joined the pod in DREEAM to record with us.  

This first podcast looks at a general approach to patients with a Psychiatric condition with focus on patients with:

  • Depression
  • Psychosis
  • Personality Disorder 

James gives great advice in talking to patients with these conditions as well how to approach mental heath in general.  

Here is the Mind website James mentioned, the leaflet on borderline personality disorder he mentioned can be found here and the Royal College of Psychiatrists leaflet A-Z can be found here.

And here is our Take Visually for this episode: